Episode 10 – Tapping And TRE

Anxiety and stress… we all have it from time to time. They both have the potential to get stuck in our bodies and most often do if left unaddressed. It’s important to know how to move through it to avoid long-term effects, as well as just feel better in the moment.

In this episode, I interview special guest Chad Brown about the world famous EFT Tapping method for releasing stress, anxiety and even trauma! We also discuss the Tension Stress & Trauma Release (TRE) method, which is fascinating! 

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Episode Transcript

Sidney: Welcome to the My Inner Tiger podcast. I'm your host Sidney DeCamella. I'm also a wife, mother master life coach, course creator and spiritual Sherpa. Over the past few years, I have overcome extreme anxiety, depression, addiction, fertility and chronic illness. As a result, I've made it my life's mission to teach other women like you that no matter what battle you're up against, you have an inner tiger, a power within to create and manifest whatever your heart desires. If you are tired of being a victim and ready to be boss of your life, you have come to the right place. In each episode, I'm going to share tools, teachings, and techniques I have used and taught countless other women so that together we can create a life beyond our wildest dreams. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that your inner tiger is just waiting to be unleashed. I'm so happy you've tuned in. Let's get started. Hello friends. And welcome back to the latest episode of My Inner Tiger. My voice sounds a little labored I'm sure because I am recovering from weeks of suffering with COVID, which has been a nightmare, but I'm excited that I'm able to talk without coughing right now. So that's major progress. I've been really focusing on bringing out my inner tiger lately because she got stuffed way down, deep somewhere, and I wasn't able to find her for a while, but I'm finally pulling out a fighting chance and turning a corner. So that's amazing. This virus is brutal. So anyway, I want to introduce my amazing guest for this week's episode. Chad Brown and I recorded this episode just two days before I got diagnosed with COVID. Chad is a dear friend who I met about a year and a half ago when I was really struggling with PTSD from my whole hospital, kidney failure, giving birth experience, which, if you're new to the podcast, go check it out episode one, and you will hear all about that experience, which led me to create My Inner Tiger. Chad is trained in tapping and T R E therapy. In this episode, we're going to dive into his story, what brought him to become a guru for all of this stuff. I met him when I was going through all of my stuff and he taught me tapping and it helped me back then with my stress and my PTSD. And it's still something I use today for helping me with stress and anxiety. I'm a really big fan of tapping. Chad is going to go into his experience with it, what led him to becoming into all of this stuff and what tapping is, what it does for you, how it can help you. Tips on how to do it as well as T R E therapy, which is very fascinating. I'm really interested in doing that myself now after this conversation. So without further ado, let's dive right in and I hope you enjoy. Welcome Chad! Chad: Well thank you for having me. Yes, so I I lived in California - Los Angeles. I live in Indiana now and I'm from Indiana, but I lived in California from about 2007 to 2015 and I lived in California when I was in my early twenties, but that was sort of my testing period. So anyway I was dealing with a lot of stress. Couldn't figure out what was going on. Didn't understand my stress. And I had been for years, a certified massage therapist. I got certified in massage therapy in 2001. So I had been in that sort of world, the sort of healing world, healing modalities and stress modalities and kind of understanding the science behind all of that. I had been in that for a long time. I had also been a personal growth and development, enthusiast since my early twenties and those fields kind of overlap often. In 2000 it was like that. When I was 39, it was my 39th birthday, I kind of woke up and thought things are not going right for me. I kind of figured out it was stress or some kind of stress, but I don't know what it is. I can't really put my finger on it. So a friend of mine that lives in Los Angeles (I actually grew up with him in Indiana) and I were talking and he asked if I had heard of tapping and I was like, you know, I've heard of this and I've kind of been looking into it. And so he dragged me to a class and we saw these guys do something called faster EFT, which is where two people work on someone at the same time. Chad: They sort of do the tapping for the person. And it was really interesting. So I started using that and it was really interesting how it kind of, what I now know, calmed down my nervous system where it was associated stressfully to certain issues. We can talk more about that later, but through other training that I've gotten, I now understand that as a nervous system situation. So I was really into tapping and I was like, this is amazing! And I started sharing it with people and then I shared it with a friend soon after that and she cured her fear of driving over bridges. She was terrified of driving over bridges. I said to her, “let's go find a bridge and we'll tap while driving over it, then we'll turn around and we'll tap driving back over it.” So now she always wants me to tell people about tapping because for her it meant curing her bridge phobia. But anyway, it opened me up to this whole world of what are often called alternative techniques and modalities for healing our woes and our stresses and our ailments and all of these kinds of things. And so that actually ended up leading me into T R E cause I just felt like there was something deeper that needed to be addressed.  I had started to learn about thinking of things somatically, bringing the body, the experience that you're having in your body, with your stress, with your issues with, I don't know, pick something - your issues with spiders or water or, that kind of thing are not just in your mind, they exist in your body because your nervous system is where you feel these The way you feel about things is in your body. You don't feel these emotions and these reactions in your brain, you feel them in your body, activated through the nervous system. Then I got to T R E and T R E is the modality of natural body shaking. Some of the best examples of this are, if you've ever been with your dog and you, if you have a dog and you get your dog's face and you say, you know, oh, I love you so much, pet the dogs face and the dog backs up and shakes, and then kind of walks off like, you know, everything's great. That is a discharge of the nervous system. That is a, reset there, you know, that emotion and that attention, which the dog loved, or, you know, we hope loved was a lot of energy all at once focused at the dog and the dog backs up and allows its body to reset or, or the nervous system to reset itself and discharge some of that excess charge from that emotional experience. Does that make sense? So that's what T R E is. T R E are a series of exercises that that allow the body to shake out excess charge, digest the charge discharge the excess stress chemicals and, and that kind of a thing. So, anyway, that's my, that's my long-winded basic rundown of how I kind of got into all of these fields and modalities. Sidney: So, okay. This is so interesting. A little backstory on me. When I was going through my kidney failure, I had been out of the hospital probably for, I don't know, six, seven months. And I was still experiencing some PTSD and some anxiety around the whole experience. My friend Sarah had introduced me to Chad.  She said, “you've got to talk to Chad. He works with anxiety and trauma”. I didn't really know what that was all about.  I dove in right in and called Chad and was like, can you help me? He walked me through some tapping but I didn't do too much of it at the time. I did it with him on the phone and I tried it a couple of other times, and I definitely noticed a difference. After that call with Chad teaching me how to do it, I definitely felt like my nervous system just really felt different. In a minute I'm going to have Chad tell you guys how it works and the process of working through and how you say things and where you tap and all of that, but it really made a difference. Naturally I became a huge fan of tapping. More recently I'm working with this woman who calls herself a primal healer. She kind of reintroduced me to tapping and reminded me more about where the different points are. And so now regularly, when I'm starting to feel any kind of anxiety or high stress anxiety coming on, I just start tapping in the tapping points on my body and saying, “even though I'm feeling this way, I love and accept myself.” I think that's what she says to do. I think there's different things that you can say, I just notice a really big difference when I do tapping. My goal is to learn how to do it so well, that it comes so naturally. I remember all the different points and I can just, you know, do it like in my sleep because it's really effective. So that's my story of how I know Chad and my story with tapping. T R E I don't really know much about, so I'm super excited to dive more into that with Chad. Earlier, Chad mentioned EFT. Just so you know, that's the same thing as tapping. So it's EFT tapping is basically what it's called. And what does T R E stand for? Chad: Tension and trauma release exercises. Sidney: Awesome. Okay. So I want to kind of break this up into two sections. I want to talk about both of them extensively. Tell me specifically how tapping works. Like what's the science behind it. You don't have to get in too much detail. I don't know if you know the real science I hate when people ask me that what's the real science behind something I'm like, I don't know. I just do it. I know it works. But like how does it really work? Chad: Yeah. So there's a lot of different kinds of science, you know, different layers of science. There's a lot of research on it. I will tell you that it is so popular that I now have neuroscientist friends that are getting certified in it.  I know pediatricians that are getting certified in it. It has become a very legitimate modality for helping people with stress and specific issues. So it's not you know, I hate to say, “woo”. I don't want to, because there is a place for the woo. But it is not in that category. It is clinically used. However, you don't have to be a clinician to teach it or use it either. That was just sort of a little bit of legitimizing so everyone kind of knows where we're coming from, but the science behind it started with a  psychologist named Roger Callahan. There’s a famous story about how this psychologist was working with one of his patients who had a water phobia. She had trouble taking showers, like let alone swimming, he couldn't swim. Roger had been studying some Eastern medicine such as acupressure and acupuncture and that kind of thing. And he had the idea of having her tap on some of these acupressure points, particularly the one. Oh, her issue is she would feel a knot in her stomach when she thought about water. So he had her tap on the acupressure point for the viscera or the stomach area, and it went away. It was immediate, like she got up and splashed water on her face and said, “I'm not feeling a knot in my stomach!” He had to do a little more work with her, but he was very kind of taken aback like, whoa, that was really fast and kind of extraordinary. So he created something called TFT, or Thought Field Therapy. And from that another guy named Gary Craig who was working with clients and also had an engineering background kind of more or less debugged the technology and decided to have everyone do these points. He studied these different points that are from the chest up. So the face and the head area and on the hands and underneath the arm are the different tapping points. And these are all acupressure acupuncture points that refer to different parts of the body. The idea is that you can sort of relax and reset these parts of the body. And these points kind of cover the whole body, like the ones on the chest refer to one thing and the ones on the forehead refer to another thing, You can cover resetting the whole body with these eight or nine points. So that is the Eastern medicine and they're called Meridian, the meridians in the body. So like where energy or charge flows through the body, stress can cause a disruption or a blockage. And so the Eastern medicine science of it is that these acupressure points unblock those passages of energy flow. The more Western science of it is that in part is that rhythm on the body relaxes the body. So you do this in a rhythm, you tap with your fingertips on these points. Sometimes you can do all the points. Sometimes you can pick the ones you like, or maybe just do one while you're sitting in the doctor's office. If you're nervous, you can just tap on your chest or tap on the edge of your hand just to calm yourself down. You could also tap on your knees or you could cross your arms, tap your shoulders in this sort of hug like position. Sometimes it doesn't matter where you're tapping as long as that place feels safe and it's calming you. A big part of it is that you are calming your body with rhythm. And that's something I've learned a lot about the nervous system science that I, I studied with T R E, the rhythm and the back and forth and up and down movement of rhythm is very calming and can reset the nervous system. The other idea of that is that while you are talking about these specific issues and you're tapping on your body, it distracts you from distraction, meaning your ego can't really get in on the game and distract you from what you're saying, “you don't want to work on this” or “you can't do this”,  that sort of critical voice that comes in and interrupts any kind of self-work you're doing. You can distract that the tapping sort of keeps a barrier between the distract or that inner critic and the work that you're trying to do to sort of reset your association with an issue that you have. Does that make sense?   Sidney: Yes.   Chad: I hope I didn't get too wordy with all of that, but that is the basis of the effectiveness I believe in. My experience is there's a lot of action. There's actually a lot of research proving these Meridian points within the nervous system. These were already in passages or these channels and has crossed over into Western research. To understand it from a very basic place, a rhythm to calm a person is very primal. When we are holding a crying baby we will kind of bounce up and down or rock from side to side and sort of twist our bodies back and forth and back and forth, or we'll do both. You can imagine what I'm talking about. Additionally if someone's upset, we automatically will put our hands somewhere on their shoulder or their back, and we will tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. And that is a natural kind of form of empathy and compassion that we have. It's a physical reaction that we have to one another as human beings. Sidney: So I'm curious, walk us through the general points. I know you start between your eyebrows and then what do you say? Like, what does it actually look like? Chad: If I had someone come in and they had an issue, and we wanted to try tapping, and they wanted to try learning, tapping, we would talk about what the issue was and we'd sort of pull it apart. Why do you think you have this issue? Where do you think this issue came from? And how long have you had this issue? And when do you remember first having this issue? And we really kind of get an idea of where the issue came from, because it gives us some content to work with. Cause then what we do is we write out statements. We write out exactly in the client's words a very sort of concise specific idea of what the problem is. And then from that, we, we come up with statements that have to do with what they want, where do they want to go? Where do they want to be in opposition to this problem that they have. And so then we start the tapping process  I will teach them first where the tapping points are. The first point to tap is the top of your head. The second point is between the eyes, just between the eyebrows, and if you want to get really specific between the eyebrows were aligned with the top of the eyebrows. If you went from one of your eyebrows and sort of drew a line to above your nose, that's kind of where you want to tap. And then the sides of the eyes, which you can do just one or both. And then the under the eyes, which, again, do just one or both under the nose, on the upper lip, and then under the bottom lip, above the chin. And then on your sternum between the two clavicles. So if you put your finger on where your two clavicle bones come together, there's like a little depth. There's like a little you there. And just below, that is where you would want to tap. I always tell people they can also tap underneath their clavicle. There's like a meaty, muscular area underneath your clavicle. And that actually not only is a good relaxer, but it actually opens up the lungs. So if you have congestion or that kind of thing, it really helps you breathe better. That's an acupressure point for sure, for the lungs, because it really does open up the lungs. And then the side, the outer edge of the hand. So either one, you can do both or just one with your tips, have your fingers tapping either side of the outer edge of the hand and then under the arm. Chad: And this is kind of the awkward one that a lot of people leave out. But if you really want to try to fully reset the body with all of these points, then you will do three inches under the arm pit and just tap that area as well. Those are all the points. Now if any of these feel, like you know,  I'm not getting any of these, I'll say try tapping with both of your hands or one of your hands on your lap between your hip and your knees somewhere, or tap on your shoulder. So if you cross your arms to where your hands, you know, what your right hand crosses to your left shoulder and your left hand cross your right shoulder and tap sort of like a butterfly, that actually is a very calming as well. Some people who are extremely sensitive and tapping on the body feels really invasive and actually stresses them out. You can have them tap on the table in front of them or have them put something like a pillow down or some kind of padding and tap on that. Tap off the body while you're trying to use that rhythm to calm yourself down. If tapping on the body feels too invasive. And so then so then the second part of question is what are you doing? How does the whole session go? So you would, you would tap, you kind of move through the different points. And then I have people pick which points feel good to you? Which points feel safe like they're actually comforting?  Identify which ones they are and you can go back and forth between them. If you kind of get sick of one or tired of one, then you can go to the next one and just go back and forth. We start with the negative idea that you're trying to change. So let's just say it's like smoking.  I hate that I smoke and I hate the way it smells. And I wish I didn't smoke - whatever we come up as the actual statement. So we tap on that. And the reason we do that is because that tapping on an issue that causes you a lot of pain or stress starts to create a new association. You are calming the body while you're talking about something stressful. And as you're doing that, you're actually creating a new state for that thing, that negative thing where it's becoming less negative, because it's becoming less stressful because you are now putting the idea of that in a calmer state. If you bring an idea into a completely calm state, it cannot be a negative stressor anymore because you can't have stress in a parasympathetic or a recovered state. So you're sort of pulling the idea down into a calmer state and making it less of an issue. That's the first part. Then you take a deep breath and let it out. And then we start tapping on the positive ideas where you want to move, where do you want to go? What you really want, how you want to change. And that creates a new association because up until now, the stressor has been the biggest charge. So these areas, these ideas that you have about where you want to go are also stressful because they are overshadowed by the bigger stressor. Does that make sense? But if you calm those, you'd be calming the positive ideas. They become more powerful because then they can take over the space that the negative idea or the problem was taking over previously. And you sort of flip it on its head. So you discharge the negative ID or the problem, and you reinvigorate, reinvigorate the ideas of where you want to go or how you want to change. Over time it flips them. Then the negative  has no real sticking points anymore. It doesn't really, it can't land anywhere. You've  discharged it. And now you are free to flow with these new ideas of change. Sidney: Oh, I love it. That's powerful. I'm just thinking like you're taking away the negative charge of whatever it is that's causing you so much anxiety. I mean, I can relate to that. I can relate to that just in the session, the one session I did with Chad, that's exactly how it felt like I was just at so much more peace afterwards. Chad: I don't want to speak for you, but I think you felt freer and more powerful to go in the direction that you really wanted to go. Sidney: Yes. And what I also did was I had the feeling of this whole, like I almost died. I'm in kidney failure. I still might die. You know, like if I don't get a kidney transplant or I'm going to be on dialysis forever it made all of that, not so scary. It just took away that whole charge, the intense charge of, in the overwhelm of all of that, and sort of just made it small to where I was able to go forward and, what's the best way to say it, tackle, what I really wanted to do with that energy. I took that negative energy and charged it into something more positive. Chad: Positive ideas are about movement and, and forwardness and flowing. Negative ideas are about being stagnant or frozen, depending on how much of a negative it is. It's about survival, which is kind of cyclical. It doesn't really go anywhere. It's a loop of trying to find safety. So when you discharge that negative and you free up the positive, that's where movement happens because when movement happens, the forwardness happens when you've allowed the positive to kind of free itself. Sidney: Awesome. That's so cool. We talked a lot about phobias. We talked about like stopping smoking, who else can benefit from tapping? What if you just have regular anxiety? Who all can benefit from this? Chad: Pretty much anybody that feels it. If you try it and it, and you like it you can use it for you. You know, you don't even have to really work on an issue. You can have it as a tool to reset yourself if you're getting too anxious, if you are in a situation where you can't figure out what to do, you're stuck. It's really good for stuckness. I have a friend who does tapping for writers. It's really good for writer's block. Again, because the ideas flow when you're in a parasympathetic state. So it really is about what can happen when you're calming the body. When you get into that parasympathetic state and everything works really well and everything flows and is at its optimum performance. If it feels good to you, you can use it for little things and big things, depending on how you want to do it. And if you want to go through the whole operation of writing out the very specific negative statement in three or four positive statements and reinforcement statements. And I think you and I did a three-part where we did reinforcement statements. Also, you can just be an athlete who's on the field and you're having little anxiety and you need to get yourself reset. So you can go and win your game, and you don't have to go through all of the steps, you know, you can just use it to calm yourself. Sidney: So this is reminding me, I used this the other day. So a couple of weeks ago, my son burned his foot and it was very traumatic. And, you know, all of us, we had to take him to the ER, and we had to take him to the burn center. At any time as a parent, when your child gets hurt. I mean, your fight or flight just shoots up. Like, honestly, it's, it's the number one trigger. I remember just being so anxious about it, and I had so much to do that day and the next day, and he couldn't go to school, you know, and it was just, I was absolutely overwhelmed. And I started tapping in my car because I was feeling that overwhelm up in my chest. It was all in my chest. It was just hanging out right there, it was even difficult to breathe right. Cause I'm so anxious. I'm scared. I'm overwhelmed, fight or flight! I started tapping and instantly started feeling better. And I'm like, oh yeah, why do I forget to use this tapping more often? You know, like, I, I, I forget that it's always available. So anytime you're in any kind of stressful anxious situation, just start doing the tapping. Like it works amazing, especially when you know how to do it well. Chad: It also just gives you a sense of autonomy. And that's another thing when I started getting into personal growth and development and kind of really studying why people can't move forward in their lives. And I realized that I had an autonomy problem. And a lot of my friends that were struggling had an autonomy problem. And that autonomy is a word that I really only became really familiar with like seven or eight years ago. And realized that when we're developing as children, we have opportunities of developing a certain level of autonomy. Now, what that word means basically is that your ability to manage yourself manage your life authentically, you know, from an authentic standpoint, like this is what works for me. It may not work for you, but this is how I need to move forward. This is how I need to manage this situation or my life. And a lot of people don't realize that a lot of their problems is that they don't feel like they have any way of managing. That the world is managing them more than they are. When you have these tools like T R E and tapping, you start to feel like you've got options, make your own tools and your own toolbox to manage your life. Tthat feels powerful. And when we feel powerful, we don't feel as threatened and stressed and, anxiety starts to dissipate when we feel like we have the ability to manage ourselves better. Sidney: Oh, that really hit home for me. I don't even think I knew what autonomy meant until now. So thank you. Chad: And that's what almost everybody says. So if you didn't know what it was, that's part of the problem. No one said, okay, today's lesson is on autonomy and here's what it is. And here's why it's important. And of course, you know, it's not gonna necessarily happen like that, but it's almost like there's this incredibly important thing that we need to learn when we're young. And so far the people in charge of us are just kind of hoping we get it through, you know, like hope it sticks somewhere and no one really ever explained it to us. So yeah, it's a very powerful thing,  just the tap! Just knowing I'm going to tap when I’m feeling anxious, that's autonomy. That’s knowing I've got tools. I'm going to use those tools right now and manage myself. And it feels powerful. Sidney: It gives you such a sense of power over yourself, you're so right. I mean, I can relate to spending so many years, like most of my life, just feeling completely out of control.  I didn't know what to do with my emotions. I didn't know how to handle them. So I drank a lot and I took prescription pills. That was my story. I just didn't know what to do with all of it. Chad: Yeah, and that feeling out of control creates anxiety, because feeling out of control anxiety is the fear of the future. It's the combination of fearing the future and trying to control the future, gripping the future, if you will. I know that Renee Brown calls it a constant state of dress rehearsing for disaster. And then you miss your whole life, you know, your whole life goes by because you are trying to, you're trying to hide in the bushes, you know, a day ahead to make sure you can see all the problems that are coming in and all of that kind of thing. Now you know, not feeling you have control over your life gives you anxiety. And that's so much of where I've, I've found a lot of people's stress comes from. Sidney: Absolutely. I have to throw in right now, in case anyone listening doesn't know that I created a course called Break Free From Stress and Anxiety. It's 13 modules with different tools to have in your toolbox.  At the end of the course, I list a bunch of different external modalities for all different other tools that I'm not certified in, that you can reach out and to other people and, you know, get help with those. And one of them, go figure, is tapping. And Chad is actually on that list. And even better is for taking the course, you get, I can't remember Chad exactly, 20 or 25% off of a package for learning how to do your own tapping. So I was probably going to throw that in here at the end, but this seems like the perfect time to say, “this is exactly what we're looking for”.  If you're struggling with anxiety, like we've got you, we've got you covered. And yeah. And there's other codes, there's other discount codes for other modalities on there as well. Chad's just one of them for just taking the course. So if you're interested, if you struggle with stress and anxiety on a regular basis, take this course, and you can find a link at the end in the show notes. Sidney: So we've talked so much about tapping. I don't want to not have time to talk about T R E. So tell us a little bit about, I'm so curious, because I don't know much about T R E and I'm super excited to hear about it. You know, you said the shaking, but I'm still a little confused on how it works. So can you talk more about that? Chad: So this was started by a PhD sociologist named, David Roselli. He was traveling abroad to areas of the world that had experienced conflict or were currently in conflict. I think he was in bomb shelters with people studying the way that their bodies reacted to stress. And what he found was that  some of the adults, but most of the children who had not socialized out of this phenomenon, would shake and they would shake similarly. It was almost like their bodies were in sync, they would shake in the same way. When we say, shake, it's really tremoring. It is more scientific to say tremoring, but then shaking is also used a lot as well. He studied this and he took all this information. He saw this a lot, these release movements, very specific kinds of movement the body would make to release or seemingly release stress or to, you know, to keep the nervous system stable. He traveled the world, looking for other professionals, other clinicians, other scientists, yoga teachers and physical therapists and all different kinds of people had seen this were interested in the science of how the body physically releases stress. We have come to repress these human parts of ourselves that are trying to help us. And we repress them because we've become so socially controlling about the way we appear to other people. He came up with the original modality was like 27 exercises. And I think he finally got done the seven and they're just these exercises from the foot to the hip and they're exercises that are about contraction and release a little bit about rhythm. Couple of them are about rhythm and contraction release and stretching, particularly stretching and contraction and stretching and contraction. And the idea is that you're moving slowly at the body to stimulate or manipulate the psoas muscles, a really interesting muscle group. That starts attaches in the lower middle of the back and goes down through the inside of the pelvis and attaches somewhere on the upper part of the femur, if you will. This is the major stress reaction muscle group. It's a very emotional muscle. It's the muscle that produces anxiety and stress. It's the, it's the muscle that pulls the body into a ball to protect itself. So if you remember, when I was a kid, we played a game with the red gym ball called Dodgeball.  And if you played that game and you ever had someone that was throwing the ball at you, your body automatically would go into this pose where your knee would lift up and your body would curl in. Do you know what I'm talking about. That is in part the, psoas muscles saying, “oh, something threatening is coming, protect the soft belly, protect the body, you know, go into a ball” that is that. So that contraction reacts before your brain even knows what's going on. So as muscle is the stress contract, put it go into a ball, you know, and then you kind of are, then once you're already in this position, then your brain is like, okay, what's going on? And it's so fast. If we don't fully recover from stressful situations - from the stress of the day to if we don't recover from traumatic experiences it doesn't fully relax. And if it doesn't fully relax, it's sending stress signals. It's sort of in a looping cyclical kind of state of anxiety and stress because of that muscle group has not fully relaxed. So what we, what we're doing there, you know, in, in trying to heal ourselves from these ailments that at the core, from stress and anxiety and trauma, you know, we try all these different things where we try to come at this problem from different angles. This is where it is a completely physical modality. We don't talk about our problems. We don't talk about the narrative of our trauma. There's no narrative discussion in this. This is about figuring out how to release these negative experiences that we have not recovered from through the natural physical release mechanisms in the body. So if you're someone who just cannot, does not want to talk about your stuff, maybe you say I don't want to talk about my childhood. I don't want to talk about the things that happened to me, but I need help. This could very well be something that's very good for you. This has a profound effect on people because this is a deep, deep release. This is not just getting a massage, which massage is wonderful. Some people call this a massage from the inside out is what it feels like. So let me go back to where I was going there in a second ago. So we get to the psoas muscle with these exercises. We release it. And as the psoas muscle releases, it sort of shakes and vibrates. So what you'll see in someone's body, when they're doing this in the position that they're in is their knees will start to flat. There'll be in a laying butterfly position after we do these exercises and their knees will start to flat. And then eventually their hips will start to vibrate back and forth. And then as the body gets comfortable with this kind of release, it's moves up the body, it moves through the abdomen, it goes into the shoulders and the hands will move and your arms will move and your head will go back and forth. And all of these different movements will happen as the body unwinds itself and releases all these years and years and years of tension that you did not know how to recover from, or you didn't let yourself recover from because we don't live in a society where we make that important enough, if that makes sense. So excited about this one, but that's T R E, there are lots of videos. If you want to prepare yourself, if you're thinking about doing this and prepare yourself of what it looks like the T R E organization the website with all the research and where you can find a local provider, we call ourselves providers it's a, it's an international certification. So we use the word provider because practitioner doesn't work everywhere and you know, that kind of thing. T R E, providers all the stories, all of the outreach programs there's, a lot of philanthropy through the organization where they travel the world, giving this away this this education. Yeah, so you can go to traumaprevention.com. That's where all the research and anything you want to know about it, or how to, you know, be a part of it is there. There are videos there and then you can go online that organization does have an official YouTube video. Now just showing the exercises, but not the release and of the session that has to be done with a practitioner or a provider. Sidney: That's something that has to be done in person, or can you do it? Chad: No, you can do it online. You can drill on it, especially now with COVID, we've all kind of banded together to figure out how to do this the best way online. As practitioners and providers, we're always doing it online, but we really kind of had to, you know, figure out how to up our game when COVID hit. Also I was going to say on YouTube, there are lots of videos of people in their sort of shaking moments, you know, in there, and you can see how people are reacting to that. And it's all different. Some people will cry, which is a way of processing, oftentimes a way of processing emotion and charge and the bodies and time. And usually when you cry during a release during T R E there's no narrative or story happening in your head, it's just, you needed it so badly. You just needed that cry to release that very specific quality of charge. Some people laugh hysterically that what is the release of charge they needed. And some people are just really like, oh my gosh, this feels so good. I feel so great. There are just tons and tons of videos. You can watch people having that experience if you want to prepare yourself or see, you know, what that looks like. Sidney: That is so awesome. I will be signing up for this right after this call. So I'm super excited about that. I'm so surprised that I didn't know more about T R E before now. As much as I've been diving into, you know, all these different modalities, I'm surprised, but you know, we're always learning, I'm sure there's 500,000 more than I still don't know about. So cool. Well, Chad, how can people get in touch with you? Chad: I'm pretty bare bones. Somatek is the name of my business for, for these modalities. S O M a T E K. I'm on Facebook. And I have links to how to book with me that I've sent you and I'll send you more specific ones too after this so that people can look at a couple of different options that they can have to get ahold of me. And then I think you'll put my email and my phone number on that. You'll be posting as well. And, and that's how that if you're on Facebook, you can get a hold of me via Facebook through somatek S O M a T E K, which is short for somatic technologies. Sidney: Okay, awesome. And I will be putting everything that we talked about in the show notes, like the link for traumaprevention.com, also all of his contact information. So there's no way you can't get in touch with him. And also let me re-state that if you take the Break Free From Stress and Anxiety course, you get a discount. Chad: And I will put a specific discount on a T R E package as well for your listeners which you and I can talk about later. Sidney: Okay. Awesome. If you're interested by all means, reach out to Chad! We covered a lot of ground. It's been a while, so it's probably time to wrap it up, but Chad, thank you so, so much for coming on here and sharing all of this amazing knowledge with us. And I know that you're also in the process of getting certified as an NLP practitioner and what was the other one. Chad: Hypnosis NLP is included in it, but I'm, I am becoming a certified hypnotist. Sidney: Awesome. And if you listened to last week's episode, we talked a lot about hypnosis, more specifically regression therapy, but if you're interested to Chad, tell us just a little bit about hypnosis and like the type of hypnosis that you're learning, how to do, and if anyone wants to reach out to you for that, they can as well. Chad: I’m taking a fantastic certification course. I'm almost done, from Tony McCree Reiner here in Indianapolis. And it involves NLP neuro-linguistic programming, which is what you might call a kind of conversational hypnosis. A lot of hypnosis doesn't have anything to do with putting people into a trance. A lot of it is about breaking a patterns, figuring out how to break a pattern. Someone has a grip, someone has on an issue. And again, a lot of it has to do with relaxation. So it's, it's, these are all, you know they all touch the edge of each other, these modalities.  NLP is a kind of conversational way of getting people to change their thought patterns. And then in hypnosis, when you do kind of put someone into a trance, it's just about relaxing into moving there, the at attention dial that they have from the problem that they're working on to the solution in a relaxed state and they, and again, it's like, it's like tapping which in a way as a kind of hypnotic modality it's all about it's their statements. We discuss where it is they really want to go, they come up with the wording and I just help reinforce, or someone like me hypnotist helps reinforce in a relaxed state that direction that they want to move their attention to. So it's, it's all very well. Sidney: Yeah, definitely. All right. Very cool. Well, I will let this be the end of our podcast. Thanks again, Chad. And if you loved what you heard today, as always, please screenshot this podcast and share it on social media and tag me at My Inner Tiger. And again, thank you Chad, for joining me and we will catch you on the next episode. Chad: Thank you. Sidney: Thank you so much for tuning in today. If you made it to the end of this podcast, there's a really good chance you are on a mission to heal your mind and your body. Did you know that healing your body truly starts with healing your emotions? So I am living proof of this because as a result of doing some really deep work on my trauma, my mindset, my thought patterns, diet, relationships, energy, and so much more. I was able to get completely off of dialysis and cancel a kidney transplant. Now, I know I've said this a million times, but I am telling you, I no longer suffer with overwhelming stress and anxiety on a regular basis. And it used to plague me. The work I've done has created a complete 180 in my life. And so who would I be if I didn't share this with others and how I was able to make such dramatic shifts for myself? That's why I put together the Break Free From Stress and Anxiety course, which takes you through the step-by-step process. I used it to come to a place where I can confidently say I'm fulfilled and genuinely enjoying my life. Now, if you're curious and want to dive deeper into what this course actually has to offer, I put the link in the show notes, or you can go to my website, myinnertiger.com and click on the break free link in the top right-hand corner. Now, if this episode really spoke to you today, please leave me a review and tag me on social media at my inner tiger. So others can share in this awesome experience too. Okay. My friend, go out into this world and take one more step toward manifesting your dreams because you are so worth it. I will see you on the next episode.